{"id":11372,"date":"2013-03-19T11:23:19","date_gmt":"2013-03-19T10:23:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cargad.com\/?p=11372"},"modified":"2015-01-29T00:28:43","modified_gmt":"2015-01-28T23:28:43","slug":"warmaster-warmaster-vs-warmaster-ancients","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/2013\/03\/19\/warmaster-warmaster-vs-warmaster-ancients\/","title":{"rendered":"[Warmaster] Warmaster vs Warmaster Ancients"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cargad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/Corvus-Belli-DBA-Romanos.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-10870\" src=\"https:\/\/cargad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/Corvus-Belli-DBA-Romanos.jpg\" alt=\"Corvus Belli DBA Romanos\" width=\"428\" height=\"173\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cargad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/Corvus-Belli-DBA-Romanos.jpg 428w, https:\/\/cargad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/Corvus-Belli-DBA-Romanos-300x121.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 428px) 100vw, 428px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Saludos, Se\u00f1ores de la Guerra.<\/p>\n<p>Ya sab\u00e9is que existe <strong>Warmaster Ancients<\/strong>, una variante de <strong>Warmaster<\/strong> con el reglamento pr\u00e1cticamente igual, pero con algunas modificaciones m\u00e1s que interesantes (si quer\u00e9is saber cu\u00e1les, os recomiendo que visit\u00e9is el foro <a href=\"http:\/\/warmaster-acolytes.mforos.com\/1812107\/10799363-diferencias-entre-fantasy-wma-y-wm\/\" target=\"_blank\">Warmaster Acolytes<\/a>, la mayor comunidad de warmasteros en espa\u00f1ol, y donde a\u00fan pulula nuestro a\u00f1orado colaborador Enrique). Echadle un ojo, porque est\u00e1n muy bien.<\/p>\n<p>Sin embargo, no es f\u00e1cil conseguir el reglamento de <strong>Warmaster Ancients<\/strong>, con lo que m\u00e1s de uno se preguntar\u00e1&#8230; \u00bfy no se puede jugar a <strong>Warmaster<\/strong> con miniaturas hist\u00f3ricas? Es decir, eliminando magia, monstruos y cosas que vuelan&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Supongo que s\u00ed. Ayer estuve buscando \u00abunidades universales\u00bb, es decir sin reglas especiales y que pudieran ser usadas en \u00abhist\u00f3rico\u00bb. La verdad es que hice una lista curiosa, con todos los tipos de unidades (caballer\u00eda, infanter\u00eda, carros), y creo que combin\u00e1ndolas (restringiendo seg\u00fan listas hist\u00f3ricas) podr\u00eda ser una forma f\u00e1cil de jugar a hist\u00f3ricos sin reglas especiales. Ya, <strong>DBA<\/strong> est\u00e1 para eso, pero (lo siento, Endakil) sigue fren\u00e1ndome tanta peana distinta: antes voy a pintar romanos y galos, ponerlos en peanas de 20&#215;40 y usarlos en <strong>Warmaster<\/strong>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>En fin. Las distintas unidades que he encontrado son \u00e9stas (todas de <strong>Warmaster<\/strong>, ojo):<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"769\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<colgroup>\n<col width=\"80\" \/>\n<col width=\"203\" \/>\n<col width=\"58\" \/>\n<col width=\"63\" \/>\n<col width=\"68\" \/>\n<col width=\"50\" \/>\n<col width=\"58\" \/>\n<col width=\"73\" \/>\n<col width=\"83\" \/>\n<col width=\"33\" \/><\/colgroup>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"80\" height=\"20\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"203\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"58\">Ataques<\/td>\n<td width=\"63\">Impactos<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">Armadura<\/td>\n<td width=\"50\">Mando<\/td>\n<td width=\"58\">Tam.Un.<\/td>\n<td width=\"73\">Puntos un.<\/td>\n<td width=\"83\">Min<\/td>\n<td width=\"33\">Max<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Personaje<\/td>\n<td>General<\/td>\n<td>+2<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>9<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>125<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Personaje<\/td>\n<td>H\u00e9roe<\/td>\n<td>+1<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>8<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>80<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Montura<\/td>\n<td>Carro<\/td>\n<td>+1<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>+10<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Infanter\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Infanter\u00eda ligera<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>6+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>45<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Infanter\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Infanter\u00eda media<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>5+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>60<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Infanter\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Infanter\u00eda de \u00e9lite<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>5+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>110<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Infanter\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Infanter\u00eda pesada<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>4+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>150<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Infanter\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Proyectiles<\/td>\n<td>3\/1<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>55<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Infanter\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Proyectiles (ligera)<\/td>\n<td>3\/1<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>6+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>75<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Caballer\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Caballer\u00eda de proyectiles<\/td>\n<td>3\/1<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>6+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>90<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Caballer\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Caballer\u00eda media<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>5+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>110<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Caballer\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Caballer\u00eda pesada<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>4+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>110<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Caballer\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Caballer\u00eda pesada de \u00e9lite<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>4+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>200<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Carro<\/td>\n<td>Carro ligero<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>6+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>80<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Carro<\/td>\n<td>Carro medio<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>5+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>95<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Artiller\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Ca\u00f1\u00f3n<\/td>\n<td>1\/2+b<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>85<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Artiller\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Ballesta<\/td>\n<td>1\/3<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>65<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Artiller\u00eda<\/td>\n<td>Catapulta<\/td>\n<td>1\/3<\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<td>75<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td height=\"20\">Monstruo<\/td>\n<td>Monstruo (elefante p.e.)<\/td>\n<td>6<\/td>\n<td>4<\/td>\n<td>5+<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>3<\/td>\n<td>250<\/td>\n<td>&#8211;<\/td>\n<td>1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>\u00bfOs parece una buena \u00ablista gen\u00e9rica\u00bb? \u00bfSe podr\u00eda representar cualquier ej\u00e9rcito hist\u00f3rico con estas listas? \u00bfCre\u00e9is que deber\u00eda a\u00f1adir los hostigadores? S\u00e9 que las hondas no tienen el mismo alcance que una ballesta, pero tambi\u00e9n s\u00e9 que \u00abunificando\u00bb o abstrayendo se pueden tener unidades bastante \u00abuniversales\u00bb (cuantas m\u00e1s reglas especiales, m\u00e1s f\u00e1cil romper el equilibrio). \u00bfSe deber\u00edan a\u00f1adir las limitaciones de 2 combates seguidos y m\u00e1ximo 3 \u00f3rdenes por unidad (aunque est\u00e9 en brigada)?<\/p>\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 opin\u00e1is?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Saludos, Se\u00f1ores de la Guerra. Ya sab\u00e9is que existe Warmaster Ancients, una variante de Warmaster con el reglamento pr\u00e1cticamente igual, pero con algunas modificaciones m\u00e1s que interesantes (si quer\u00e9is saber cu\u00e1les, os recomiendo que visit\u00e9is el foro Warmaster Acolytes, la <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/2013\/03\/19\/warmaster-warmaster-vs-warmaster-ancients\/\">Seguir leyendo <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">  [Warmaster] Warmaster vs Warmaster Ancients<\/span><span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[613],"tags":[150,324],"class_list":["post-11372","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-juego","tag-historico","tag-warmaster"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11372","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11372"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11372\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":22995,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11372\/revisions\/22995"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11372"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11372"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11372"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}