{"id":53324,"date":"2018-12-21T00:23:02","date_gmt":"2018-12-20T23:23:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/?p=53324"},"modified":"2018-12-21T00:23:03","modified_gmt":"2018-12-20T23:23:03","slug":"hobby-norba-y-su-hindenburg-particular","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/2018\/12\/21\/hobby-norba-y-su-hindenburg-particular\/","title":{"rendered":"[Hobby] Norba y su Hindenburg particular"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Saludos, valiente navegante de los cielos. Si est\u00e1s pensando comprar el dirigible de Norba, echa un <em>HOJO <\/em>a este art\u00edculo primero. Me hago eco de las palabras de <strong><em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Mat Buisine (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/mat.buisine.1\" target=\"_blank\">Mat Buisine<\/a><\/em><\/strong>, un modelista franc\u00e9s que ha publicado una queja sobre este producto en el grupo de FB de <strong><em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Oldhammer Community (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/400319303383363\/?ref=group_header\" target=\"_blank\">Oldhammer Community<\/a><\/em><\/strong> y en la p\u00e1gina de la campa\u00f1a de preventa en KS. Si eres de la generaci\u00f3n que pasa de leer y lo quiere todo ya, y en v\u00eddeo, toma-toma aqu\u00ed debajo lo dejo. El art\u00edculo sigue tras el salto.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Kickstarter Norbaminiatures\" width=\"530\" height=\"398\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/IKS1tndBEqQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>Review on the KS from Norba miniatures<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>-2 months late but that&#8217;s expected&nbsp;\ud83d\ude42<br>&#8211; excellent tiny resin components<br>&#8211; incredibly shitty large resin parts. They are twisted (i can get some of them back with the hot bath) and some are just defective as sanding has been done by them in such a way that they simple removed some parts of the product!!!!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I wrote them today and I went into full WTF mode:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br>Dear sir<br>I obtained your product yesterday. I&#8217;m a very experienced hobbyist.<br>&#8211; small parts are really good<br>&#8211; big parts are not usable and the product is NOT acceptable right now. I created a small video for you to see.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1) the tail assembly leads to a part that you can not glue to the main part: cutting was not well done and 3mm are missing on one part of the tail<br>2) the rear balloon has 1mm is missing at the rear in one of the two parts and assembly is impossible with the tail.<br>3) the front balloon is twisted: correct assembly between up and bottom part is just impossible as the diameter is not the dame.<br>4) the worst of the worst problem: the front part and the main part have been badly cut. Assembly is possible as there is a missing part : 3 mm of the ship has been removed so the wooden sides just don&#8217;t match. It&#8217;s not warped: it&#8217;s just missing! This is the worst problem even if it&#8217;s hard to see in the video&#8230;.<br>5) dragons&#8217; head is full of bubbles<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The answer:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00bb There is no problem, just that you are not riding well hahaha, there are 4 different parts of the globe, look at the ones that have the hole for the mast\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then a second guy on FB said the same thing about them and Norman miniatures deleted the conversation. I alsk the same question on the KS and his answer is:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00abThe balloon consists of 4 totally different parts and only fits one way. It is not very difficult to build it, but if some people do not do it the first time, tell them that the part where it looks like a hole goes down, which is the one with the mast.<br>The pieces are perfect, in your video but you are not getting them right\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You can deduce whatever you want about this company. I purchased from maybe 80 miniature companies during the last 30 years and I&#8217;ve never seen something like that (!)<\/p>\n\n\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><em>Traducci\u00f3n del texto (m\u00e1s o menos). <\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n<p>Dos meses de retraso (esperados). Las partes y piezas peque\u00f1as bien. Las partes grandes mal (usa la expresi\u00f3n \u00abmierda increible\u00bb). Retorcidas (alguna se salva usando agua caliente), defectuosas, hasta el punto de tener que lijar hasta comerse material para lograr la uni\u00f3n. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As\u00ed que el hombre le manda un mensaje a la empresa, acompa\u00f1ado de un v\u00eddeo, para mostrar los problemas que tiene con el producto. La respuesta, si ya conoces las formas de Norba en sus redes sociales, no te sorprender\u00e1. <\/p>\n\n\n<p><em>\u00abNo hay problema, es que no est\u00e1s montando bien (el modelo). Hay varias piezas distintas, debes usar una en concreto\u00bb.\u00a0<\/em><br \/><br \/><!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p>Otra persona le dice lo mismo en facebook y OH SORPRESA le borran el comentario. Que es la pr\u00e1ctica habitual de Norba cuando les dicen cosas que no les gusta en su facebook: borrar comentarios. Cuando vuelve a preguntar lo mismo en Kickstarter (donde no te pueden borrar los comentarios) le explican que el globo consta de cuatro partes, que no es dif\u00edcil de ensamblar, que las piezas en el v\u00eddeo est\u00e1n perfectas pero que no sabe ensamblarlo.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n<p><em><strong>\u00bfHas visto el v\u00eddeo? Se ven unos cacho huecos que no son para masilla, son para meter yeso y tapajuntas. Y eso en la parte de la cola, que en la barquilla hay un escal\u00f3n que no se lo salta un z\u00edngaro.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<p>Acaba Mat con un \u00abhe comprado a m\u00e1s de 80 compa\u00f1\u00edas durante 30 a\u00f1os y nunca hab\u00eda visto nada como esto\u00bb (se refiere a la respuesta y actitud de la empresa).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Pues ese es el dirigible de Mat Buisine. Hay otros dirigibles de norba por ah\u00ed circulando, pero a Mat le ha tocado el hindenburg. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Y lo mejor est\u00e1 por llegar. Porque otra gente se ha hecho eco del v\u00eddeo y <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"ha comentado en la campa\u00f1a de KS esta situaci\u00f3n. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/1953336682\/dwarf-zeppelin-miniature-norbaminiatures\/comments?fbclid=IwAR3fU5eaY3r0bAihuNVZqHKzCxp-cMnY_UBSFeo1L4Kt_wRlcbH2RVPbOhg\" target=\"_blank\">ha comentado en la campa\u00f1a de KS esta situaci\u00f3n.<\/a> La respuesta del administrador de la campa\u00f1a (que me imagino que ser\u00e1 el propio Eduardo Barroso) es cuanto menos peculiar:  <br>The client was right, instead of 55, I had to sell them at 200, real price and not 50, and also in your case, we will return the money as long as you send us the pieces. Making noise or trying badly to put in instead of talking things, makes this the solution. You send us the pieces that came to you and we will gladly refund your money. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00abEl cliente tiene raz\u00f3n, en vez de 55 euros tendr\u00eda que haberlo vendido por 200, su precio real y no a 50, y en tu caso (el de Mat) te devolver\u00e9 el dinero en cuanto me env\u00edes las piezas. Hacer ruido o tratar de malmeter en vez de hablar lleva a esta soluci\u00f3n. Env\u00edame las piezas y te devuelvo el dinero. \u00ab<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Pero si el producto est\u00e1 perfecto y el problema es que Mat no sabe montar el dirigible, \u00bfpor qu\u00e9 ofrecer una devoluci\u00f3n? \u00bfY m\u00e1s en ese tono?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Claro, esta respuesta es la tercera o cuarta que le da, por lo no creo que se pueda decir que Mat no ha tratado de hablar con Norba sobre esto. De hecho ha enviado varios mensajes, sin una respuesta eficaz. Por eso ha hecho la denuncia p\u00fablica, para meter presi\u00f3n. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pues ea, as\u00ed ha salido alguno de los dirigibles. Y esa es la respuesta de la empresa. Que cada uno saque sus conclusiones.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"730\" height=\"820\" src=\"https:\/\/cargad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/facepalm.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-53327\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Saludos, valiente navegante de los cielos. Si est\u00e1s pensando comprar el dirigible de Norba, echa un HOJO a este art\u00edculo primero. Me hago eco de las palabras de Mat Buisine, un modelista franc\u00e9s que ha publicado una queja sobre este <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/2018\/12\/21\/hobby-norba-y-su-hindenburg-particular\/\">Seguir leyendo <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">  [Hobby] Norba y su Hindenburg particular<\/span><span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":840,"featured_media":53327,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[72],"tags":[1211,1052],"class_list":["post-53324","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-hobby","tag-dirigible","tag-norba"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/facepalm.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53324","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/840"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=53324"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53324\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":53328,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53324\/revisions\/53328"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/53327"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=53324"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=53324"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cargad.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=53324"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}